Does anybody know of any airports in the New York City area with a GCO
installed? This is the new(ish) "4 click for ATC, 6 clicks for FSS"
gizmo. It seems like something I should expose my students to.

"Roy Smith" > wrote in message
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>
> Does anybody know of any airports in the New York City area with a GCO
> installed? This is the new(ish) "4 click for ATC, 6 clicks for FSS"
> gizmo. It seems like something I should expose my students to.
>

Doesn't seem like the New York City area would have any need for a GCO.

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in
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> "Roy Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Does anybody know of any airports in the New York City area with a GCO
>> installed? This is the new(ish) "4 click for ATC, 6 clicks for FSS"
>> gizmo. It seems like something I should expose my students to.
>>
>
> Doesn't seem like the New York City area would have any need for a GCO.
>
>

Why? We have a GCO at I19 airport which is right next to DAY class C and
Wright-Patterson Class D.

"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
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>
> Why?
>

Because the New York City area has few uncontrolled fields and many ATC
frequencies.


>
> We have a GCO at I19 airport which is right next to DAY class C and
> Wright-Patterson Class D.
>

What's your point?

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in
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> "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> . 158...
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>> Why?
>>
>
> Because the New York City area has few uncontrolled fields and many ATC
> frequencies.
>
>
>>
>> We have a GCO at I19 airport which is right next to DAY class C and
>> Wright-Patterson Class D.
>>
>
> What's your point?
>
>

If New York airports don't need GCO because they are close to ATC, then I
don't see why I19 has a GCO.

Roy...

I don't know of any.... There's talk we might get one at
47N in the not too far distant future though....

John Price
CFII/AGI/IGI
http://home.att.net/~jm.price


"Roy Smith" > wrote in message
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> Does anybody know of any airports in the New York City area with a GCO
> installed? This is the new(ish) "4 click for ATC, 6 clicks for FSS"
> gizmo. It seems like something I should expose my students to.

While not exactly what you may be looking for, KFRG's clearance delivery
becomes an open connection to NY Approach after 11 PM. It doesn't require
clicks for operation but you need to keep in mind that the controller you
will be trying to talk to is talking to other aircraft on different
frequencies--just as on a GCO. I would think that would be the tricky part
of a GCO as opposed to the clicking.

Marco

"Roy Smith" > wrote in message
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> Does anybody know of any airports in the New York City area with a GCO
> installed? This is the new(ish) "4 click for ATC, 6 clicks for FSS"
> gizmo. It seems like something I should expose my students to.



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"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
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> If New York airports don't need GCO because they are close to ATC, then I
> don't see why I19 has a GCO.
>

You don't see why things are done differently in different situations?

A GCO isn't needed at a controlled field or a field where contact can be
made with the facility providing ATC services.

"Marco Leon" <mleon(at)optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> While not exactly what you may be looking for, KFRG's clearance delivery
> becomes an open connection to NY Approach after 11 PM. It doesn't
> require clicks for operation but you need to keep in mind that the
> controller you will be trying to talk to is talking to other aircraft on
> different frequencies--
>

Yes, but you will hear the controller's side of the conversation so you can
usually make a pretty good guess when a communications exchange is complete.

I think Tipton field (KFME) in Maryland has one. It's a little bit of a
hike, but still well within a tank of gas if you can't find one closer. It's
also within the washington ADIZ, so it would be a doubly good learning
experience.

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

> "Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in
> link.net:
>
> >
> > "Roy Smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> Does anybody know of any airports in the New York City area with a GCO
> >> installed? This is the new(ish) "4 click for ATC, 6 clicks for FSS"
> >> gizmo. It seems like something I should expose my students to.
> >>
> >
> > Doesn't seem like the New York City area would have any need for a GCO.
> >
> >
>
> Why? We have a GCO at I19 airport which is right next to DAY class C and
> Wright-Patterson Class D.

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